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Breakdown of civil society ?
« on: February 06, 2019, 12:09:42 pm »
This reminds me of New York pre Giuliani when it was unsafe to walk the streets in large areas of the city. Fortunately his zero - tolerance and three strikes out policies dramatically improved the situation. Vacuums always fill themselves with rubbish (in this case petty offenders well on the way to becoming major criminals). Time to bring it to a stop please before it gets completely out of hand.

https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/home/26539/fears-after-stabbing-and-attack-on-pensioner-74.html
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Re: Breakdown of civil society ?
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2019, 07:28:02 am »
Quite dreadful! 

The New York example is good, but would it work in the UK?  In the US, fear of punishment is still a potent inhibitor.  Not so much here; where simply to save money our Policing and Criminal Justice arrangements are demonstrably not fit for purpose.

Is our 'official' response really acceptable or adequate.  The Mayor of Hungerford and the local beat copper have a chat!

First, just like all the other mayoral appointments in West Berkshire, these dignitaries are toothless tigers.  Appointed simply as ceremonial heads of councils which have no real authority or power. 
Second, as this issue has escalated so dangerously, rather than chatting to the foot soldier, what has the Chief Constable, or more to the point, the Crime Commissioner (who actually lives in the area) got to say about this, or more to the point, what are they going to do?

In my view, the feeble official response simply highlights our impotence and we can therefore at best, we can expect this nasty situation to continue. 

Not sure I'd recommend Hungerford as a place to visit, let alone live.


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Re: Breakdown of civil society ?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2019, 11:22:42 am »
We all know where this is heading. How long before we start reading the same kind of headlines that plague London and other large conurbations?

https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/home/26789/youths-attack-and-rob-vulnerable-hungerford-16-year-old.html
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Re: Breakdown of civil society ?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2019, 08:23:06 am »
Its already here.

Two very frightening reports in NWN recently, which received scant attention.  Essentially the same type of violent, very nasty 'domestics'.  Men murdering their partners / girl friends and then claiming they had mental health issues, so couldn't remember / be held responsible.  Both were known to be violent.

Where have we failed?

-  'my kids are Gods' parenting
-  'no punishment' methods used in schools
-  closure of local courts
-  cessation of local press reporting local court results
-  cessation of beat policing and even the pale replacement wardens
-  legitimisation of lower category drugs, like cannabis
-  soft policing and management of presently relaxed licencing regulations.
-  .....and now the ability to blame all personal failings on 'mental health'

We reap what we sow.